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Everyone has felt the sting of betrayal, or has betrayed another, and most of us have been on both sides of the line at one time or another in our lives. However, like many things in this world, not all betrayals are the same.

For instance, perhaps you tell a trusted friend something in confidence, and they in turn tell someone else of what you told them. Or a woman leaves her husband, taking their children and all that they have with her, without so much as a note explaining why. Or else maybe you make plans with a group, but something that you could never have anticipated changes, and you no longer wish to continue with the plans that were made for reasons that you did not appreciate before.

All of these things might be considered betrayals, and yet, what about the circumstances surrounding these acts of unfaithfulness? What if the thing you told your friend in confidence was something that could have gotten them seriously hurt, like the use of an illegal substance? What if the husband is beating the woman, or her children, and finally she gets up the nerve to do something about it? What if your ideals and way of looking at life had suddenly changed, and you no longer wished to follow through with something that you might have done before?

Yes, they are all forms of betrayal to someone, but sometimes there can be reasons behind a betrayal that are not always known to others and sometimes they can even be necessary for the good of all. Now of course, sometimes they may be bad reasons, but that is not always going to be the case.

Betrayal, like beauty, is oftentimes in the eyes of the beholder.

Date: 2005-08-30 07:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogue-charmer.livejournal.com
Can love itself be a betrayal, do you think, Priest?

Date: 2005-08-30 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] on-holy-ground.livejournal.com
In certain circumstances I believe that it can be, yes.

Date: 2005-08-30 04:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogue-charmer.livejournal.com
I don't mean when you fall in love with one person while committed to another.

I mean...well. Maybe that is part of it.

*far too still, with far too much energy buzzing about inside*

But it's not. I mean just loving someone. When you have the...the right to. Can it still be a betrayal?

Date: 2005-08-30 04:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] on-holy-ground.livejournal.com
*is quiet for a moment as he considers the question*

I believe that it can be, especially as not all betrayals have to involve another person. Sometimes, it is not a betrayal of another, but a betrayal of the heart, soul, or spirit that is a problem. After all, it is not unknown for men, and even gods, to betray themselves.

Date: 2005-08-30 04:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogue-charmer.livejournal.com
*sighs*

What of the person who is loved?

Date: 2005-08-30 05:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] on-holy-ground.livejournal.com
A betrayal does not truly exist, unless someone feels that they have been betrayed, or have been the betrayer.

Date: 2005-08-30 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogue-charmer.livejournal.com
...Do you truly think so?

Date: 2005-08-30 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] on-holy-ground.livejournal.com
I think that if you felt the need to ask me the question, then one of those two things must be true, otherwise why would you have even thought to ask?

Date: 2005-08-30 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogue-charmer.livejournal.com
*shrugs slightly, glacing away*

I don't know.

Date: 2005-08-31 02:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] on-holy-ground.livejournal.com
Perhaps then, you should search your heart for the answer.

Date: 2005-08-31 02:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogue-charmer.livejournal.com
*scowls impatiently*

I could have gone to a Priestess for that, Priest. I came to you.

Date: 2005-08-31 02:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] on-holy-ground.livejournal.com
I cannot give you the answers to personal questions of the heart, Midir. Only you can find those.

Date: 2005-08-31 02:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogue-charmer.livejournal.com
*sprawls down in a chair looking up at him*

I came to you for spiritual advice about the natue of betrayal.

Date: 2005-08-31 02:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] on-holy-ground.livejournal.com
The nature of betrayal is bound by circumstances and by the personality and desires of the person doing the betraying. *his arms slip into the sleeves of his robes as his eyes turn thoughtful for a moment* There are even those who say Judas was betrayed, even as he betrayed Christ.

Date: 2005-08-31 02:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogue-charmer.livejournal.com
The way I've heard the story, Priest, Judas believed he was furthering your god's work.

*he waves his hand dismissively*

Not that I care for your Martyr's problems. I'm talking about me.

Date: 2005-08-31 03:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] on-holy-ground.livejournal.com
Of course you are. What is it exactly that you want me to tell you?

Date: 2005-08-31 04:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogue-charmer.livejournal.com
*scowls again*

That loving someone, wanting to be with them, is not a betrayal of them.

Date: 2005-08-31 04:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] on-holy-ground.livejournal.com
It is not a betrayal of them.

*Pause*

Unless of course there is a force beyond their power that makes them feel the same towards another regardless of what their true feelings might be. In that case, then perhaps love truly would be a betrayal.

Date: 2005-08-31 04:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogue-charmer.livejournal.com
*sits up sharply*

I would never force her to feel something she doesn't.

Date: 2005-08-31 04:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] on-holy-ground.livejournal.com
Perhaps force is too strong a word. Persuade might be a better term. However, either way I did not mean to accuse you of anything. I was mearly thinking on your earlier question about love and betrayal.

Date: 2005-08-31 05:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogue-charmer.livejournal.com
What she feels is not the problem.

Date: 2005-08-31 05:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] on-holy-ground.livejournal.com
Is it what you feel that's the problem then?

Date: 2005-08-31 05:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rogue-charmer.livejournal.com
*slightly grudgingly*

It is what happens because of what I feel tha is the problem.

Date: 2005-08-31 05:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] on-holy-ground.livejournal.com
*lifts an eyebrow slightly* And what is it that happens?

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